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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Bush vetos anti-waterboarding bill Reply with quote

Crying or Very sad

I'm not even gonna say a thing.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure you don't want to tell us what this entails and why it's making you cry?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's about torture to get information out of war prisoners.  Using simulated drowning and the like.  

Of course Bush vetoed it, because it got the Intelligence community information to thwart terrorist attacks.  Of course it's inhumane, but Bush isn't going to stop it.  I doubt that the military higher ups would let any President stop it.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kay, now I know what you're talking about. Forgive my ignorance.

As far as I'm concerned, torture doesn't work and will never work. If you torture comeone enough, they'll do and/or say anything to make it stop, including whatever it is that you want to see/hear. I'm sure they know this, so why do we insist on using these tactics? Does the military simply LIKE torturing people?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lyssandra wrote:
Does the military simply LIKE torturing people?


All militaries torture in times of peace and war. Peace against their own members "for discipline" and in wartime, I'm sure you know...

It's simply inevitible. Every military has their own good guys and bad guys.

The only problem is, because the US military is the most technologically advanced and powerful in the world, they can do whatever the heck they wish without fearing heavy international protest and criticism.

Ahbu Grahbi prison for example? Gitmo Bay in Cuba? And the rape and murder of the poor 14 year old Iraqi girl by sick US soldiers?

All of that easily washed over by our so-called "democratic" media. Not to mention...

The US holds the reins of the UN and are a "world power". Smart huh? >;)
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know what I've been wondering about for a LONG time... It seems to me that the military is getting a good percentage of our tax dollars, not the most, but a lot. However, no politician dares to even THINK of cutting the military funding. If they have enough money to torture and kill people with state-of-the-art technology, they certainly don't need as much as they're getting. That's my own opinion, though.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lyssandra wrote:
You know what I've been wondering about for a LONG time... It seems to me that the military is getting a good percentage of our tax dollars, not the most, but a lot.


OLD TOPIC REVIALIAL!!!

Well, here is the US military spending on so-called "national defense".
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/spending.htm

Rest-of-World [all but USA] $500 billion  2004 est. [see Note 4]  
United States $623 billion  FY08 budget [see Note 6]
China $65.0 billion  2004 [see Note 1]


Is that even possible?! Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually heard that the most amount of our tax dollars is going to social security. We seem to be VERY paranoid about this whole immigration thing, so I wouldn't be surprised.



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