Now, true, this was posted back in 2006, but the subject is still HIGHLY relevant, in my opinion. Personally, I agree. If we weren't a bunch of idiots who can't seem to control our sex drives, the problem wouldn't even exist. Though I see what Hawking is saying about any number of disasters being capable of wiping us out (though the natural ones he didn't mention could also destroy the entire planet) I think there is something to be said for responsibility here.
Who says we don't deserve any disaster we can think of. Here we are, thinking we have the right to all of the Earth's resources (raping and pillaging at the same multitasking time!) just because of our large frontal lobes, bipedalism, and technology. If you ask me, I'm surprised the inevitable repercussions haven't at least slapped us in the face yet. We continue to reproduce, covering every inch of the planet, overflowing and straining capacity, and we think we should send a group out into space to find another planet and do the same thing all over again!
Now, by no means am I arguing for the mass-extinction of human beings. That would be irresposible. What I am trying to communicate is, as I said before, a need to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY. That means trying to FIX our mess before we resort to drastic options such as sending people out to continue the species in the recesses of space. Sure, any exponential function will tell you that you don't realize there's a problem until it's too late, but I think there's too much resting here on Earth for us to just give up on and pursue life elsewhere.
Given the fact that our very ORIGINS rest here; our evolution took place here, and we would certianly not have the things we do if we hadn't been raised in these conditions (as a species, of course). I think it's worth trying to fix before we abandon as hopeless. True, origins aren't exactly intristic value, because after all, we're the only ones who can really appreciate that aspect of it, but in this case I'm going to be selfish and say "We may be able to survive in space or on another planet, but this is where I grew up, damnit, and it means something to me!"
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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:01 pm Post subject:
Okay, how much of the article did you read, and how much of my post did you read? I'm guessing you didn't like it enough to read all of it, or else you might be actually debating instead of calling it flat-out morbid.
Besides, I'm a misanthrope. Did you expect me to say anything else? No, I don't trust human beings with another planet before I can trust them with this one. Unless you're completely irresponsible, you don't go out, buy a car, crash it, and then go right out and buy another one. The analogy is not as good as the cockroach one, but it seems to me that we're saying too much damage has been done before we're even taking the time to really examine what we can do to fix it.
If it is irrevocably trashed, sure, by all means, we can spend the good amount of money and people to colonize in space, becaus then I can trust those people to be responsible, AFTER WE'VE DONE ALL WE CAN HERE. _________________
But you have to realize....there are people high up in teh government that make too much money ff of these earth destroying stuff so the chances of us fixing the things in time....are slim. Hence really the only option left is death....but that would be loss of innocents.
Although if you look through history, whenever earth gets overpopulated a plague or something will wipe us out t a smaller fraction. Humans never die off from these completly but it hits us whenever we get past a certain mark if you havn't noticed. Eventually after waving back and forth, naturally we'll find a generally steady population. _________________
Location: In A Magical Place Made Entirely Of Food
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:52 pm Post subject:
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That may be true for OTHER species, VRap, but not us. Human population as a whole has been doing barely anything but rising. Sure, some populations around the world have hit plagues and wars in which it was devastating to their population, but in the whole, that only produces a miniscule spike downward that eventually is surpassed by an upsurge of humans elsewhere.
You're right, nature should be able to control us in that way, and once our resources are diminished our population should diminish a bit, but we haven't done that in the past. Now the population is so big that when these controls DO take hold, they'll be DEVASTATING to those who didn't see it coming.
As for the higher-ups controlling how the environment fares, you know they're up there because WE give them the power to be there. It's not as if power is an intristic trait that some people have and others don't. If we REALLY wanted to change things, we could get the support to take them down from their pedestals.
Of course, that probably won't happen either. I say, we might as well kiss our asses goodbye. We think we're all so valuable, but we're still convinced that we can do whatever we want without consequences. I thought that being precious meant weilding a substantial amount of influence....
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