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| VRaptorX |
911 fails to act responciblyJust on the news. Apparently some woman died in a fire. She called 911 while still inside and she was put ON HOLD!So now we have some 911 people suspended without pay for 1 to 5 days. that's it? A person died and they get that? How about we hire some people who are actually smart and know how to act in a situation. This is just sad. |
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| Lyssandra |
Should there even be a hold button on their phones??? Of course, considering the amount of calls they're getting a day.... Someone, somewhere out there getting hurt, but still it's a wonder they could even bring themselves to put someone on hold... | ||||
| SesshyFan-Girl |
I would fire those people | ||||
| exceed zero |
I would have those guys have their hands executed so they can never pick up a phone again.
Or a fork. Or spoon. Or anything else in that matter... |
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| Lyssandra |
Very "Hammurabi-esque" if you ask me. Eye for an eye thing doesn't go over well with the human rights activists. 
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| jadehorse77 |
Nope, that's a little barbaric. We don't know the whole story, we don't know why these operators had to put her on hold...I'm sure it wasn't for a smoke break or anything. If they had all their lines tied up with emergencies, what else are they supposed to do?
Sure, they should be punished, but don't you think that the fact that someone died, and they have to live with themselves...I think that's probably punishment enough....and it will make them take their job even more seriously now. |
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| exceed zero |
Thank you. And as I stated before... I'm Asian. >:3c Historically and culturally, Asians have always been tough on their people. Which is why many in the Western world decry many Asian countries constantly and risk saber-rattling... Oh wate... isn't that what the Olympics are for? *sarcasm* XD |
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| jadehorse77 |
I know a lot of Asians, and they're not all that way. Be careful with generalizations. 
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| exceed zero |
That's not what I meant jade. I mean "as a whole". As in an entire nationality. I actually understand and know what I am talking about here. And note my "historical and cultural" note I input. In Asia, the family or entire nation comes first instead of individual freedoms. It is for the good of all, instead of the one. Need I remind you of our so-called "perfect" political system where, instead of compromising differences, our electees fight instead? What good is a political system if all our politians do is but fight amongst themselves? George Washington once said, when he was appointing his Cabinet for his presidency, "The two party political system will be the death of America." It is primarily the reason why Asia had thrived for so long, while the West is collapsing once again. |
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| Lyssandra |
Here's where the lines blur, though: You describe the Asians to be more about the group as a whole and the greatest good for the greatest number. Sounds fairly utilitarian to me, and the thing is, so is the United States, they just happen to want to hide it because of their individualistic values. Democracy is TOTALLY a utilitarian system, it ensures that the majority get what they want, and that's IF the system is working properly, which I'd say it's not exactly doing right now....
There's not a world of difference between Asian and Western countries, we just think there is because the ones we're living in tell us there is. It's all a difference in our focus on individual or group, and with the US's focus on patriotism and corporate entities, I'd say we're going more "Asian" (by your definition) every day. |
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| jadehorse77 |
Nice answer Lys.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with patriotism. I dare say that if the US had a little more patriotism then we'd be finished and out of Iraq with success. There just becomes a problem when the indoctrination under the label of "culture" threatens to take away a person's free will....and they give it up willingly because of pride. I'm reading a fascinating book about mind control in Oriental cultures and governments (I say oriental because it includes India, Pakistan, etc...as well as 'Asian'). European and American governments learned from the oriental styles, and so on and so on. It's really amazing how much people are willing to believe in the name of culture, based on mind control. There's nothing wrong with standing up for your country, but at the same time, giving up one's freedoms is problematic....you get unrest and despair at the level of the working class, and the system crumbles. The bigwigs in power get what they want at the expense of the people. It's really sad. At the end of the day, it's so funny to see how very much alike people are, all over the world. As much as people desperately claim to be different and 'special', they're really not. |
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| exceed zero |
Yeah, that is where the lines blur. But I seriously doubt culture is used for "political" indoctrinatizion.
US patriotism...uhm...to be honest... ranting here. I'm sick of this so-called "USA!" patriotism shit. For fucking serious. The people are completely brainwashed on a national level. Most aren't even informed of the world's problems and the ones who are usually want violence against somebody simply because they have a different government from the US. Need I remind what you guys did in Latin America? Chile is a GREAT example. Brazil next. Oh and the US isn't a democracy. Never was and never will. I'm on a socialist forum and pretty much all the members agree the US ain't a democracy. As for American people themselves... Most are raised to be "exceptional" compared to the other world out there. Great leaders we are, huh? But then again, the "democratic" modern government we have has been in power for over 200 years. As for others...what? Less than 50? At least China holds strong to their culture rather than throw it all away for so-called "freedom"... At least, the way America defines it. 
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| VRaptorX |
technically i think usa is labelled as a republic. | ||||
| exceed zero |
The US is considered a "republic" in name but "we are essentially a market state, of a bureaucratic nature, negated over by minor concerns over religion and..." I forgot the rest. XD But it's from George Orwell's brilliant novel "1984". I'm sure you know the rest. The US is not only a police state to the public, ignoring the needs of the people on a small scale (like our recession and high healthcare costs), but they (under the cover of the UN) are a "benevolent" police force as well. |
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| Lyssandra |
All I know is I'm hoping beyond all hope that I don't have to skip a border after this next election. I'm betting anything on a "witchhunt" in some way shape or form from either party. Maybe I'm being paranoid, but it seems to me that the last few years are just the beginning of a large pile of shit. | ||||
| VRaptorX |
I'm a bit worried if McCain gets in. If Hillary gets in...well I won't be happy but I won't have to worry about the constitution getting destroyed and replaced with a bible. As for Obama....I hope he wins. He seems like a politician who actually wants to help people.
And Kim....mind going a little.....less on the USA hate? You can still say your mind but a nicer word selection would be appreciated. |
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| exceed zero |
What I said is basically true on a large scale more or less. And a nicer word selection?
Tell that to the millions of ignorant Americans who want to see any country blown off the face of the Earth as soon as the government labels them as an "enemy".
McCain can never be president. He's just too old to lead. Hillary is center-right, she'll definitely exploit the normal people (meaning middle class us) under the cover of "universal healthcare" or some bull like that. Obama...geez. He does seem like the best one out of all. But with all this "Obama is intent on destroying the US" propaganda by Hillary, it's hurting his popularity a lot. It's so funny on just how misled Americans are...some world leaders we are, eh? |
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| VRaptorX |
Yeah...I can't belive that "Obama had a part of september 11th" bullshit actually is working on people. | ||||
| exceed zero |
But the question is "just how many do believe it"?
In other news, I hope Obama can get the canditacy (or however you spell it). He actually seems to know what he's doing, unlike the rest of the others who put the blame on others.
I suppose Ron Pual was a good option too but...I don't know much about him. That and he dropped out. |
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| Lyssandra |
Ron Paul was an okay option, but the he had education at the top of the list of governmental funding he would cut. I happen to think the education systen sucks royally in this country, so I wouldn't be supporting that at all.
Obama DOES seem the best bet, and with all us liberal hippies out in the Colorado Rockies, you know he's not going to lose ALL the votes because Hillary can't shut up. We like him out here. But, again, votes in Colorado aren't very high on anyone's list of priorities.... |
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| Lyssandra |
BTW:
He doesn't necessarily have to tone it down, unless it's making you uncomfortable, VRap. I'm actually RELIEVED that he feels comfortable enough to say these things on here. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm sick of people walking on eggshells around the subject of politics. They don't want to offend anyone and keep their opinions to themselves, but if we don't share our feelings, that's where all our confusion and problems come from anyway. It's a never-ending spiral, and it will keep getting worse until some of us have the courage to stand up and say "this isn't right, and it needs to stop".
Not many people I know personally believe it, but there are some crazy people out there who do, I'm sure. Otherwise, why would the people propogating it still have their jobs? It's all a convenience thing, I think. People are living sedentary lifestyles in the physical world, and so they believe their thoughts should be sedentary as well. If they don't have to think about it, they're content, and the answers given to them by the media make it so they're content. Simple enough, right? I'm sure you guys can agree with me when I say I'm sick of people not thinking, but I'm also sick of people not LISTENING. People don't want to learn from each other and their different opinions. People don't want to change their minds and evolve their thought processes. People just want to sit on their asses and say that they believe one thing and it's never going to change. That way, they don't have to waste any energy talking and getting people to listen. |
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| VRaptorX |
OK...sorry Kim.
hey....how bout a satirical pro USA song? http://youtube.com/watch?v=BUt6LtwZu2c Uhmericaaaaaa! Fuck yeah! |
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| Lyssandra |
Don't get me wrong, if it IS making you uncomfortable, we can try to tone it down. It's just kind of difficult to when nearly everything we're being told by our governmental officials and media is a less-than-accurate account. I was just under the impression that since Kim wasn't telling us all that we're wrong and to go to hell, his opinion isn't a bad thing to have on this forum.
Weird song, by the way. |
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| jadehorse77 |
I find it a little offensive, I'm not against him having an opinion, but when it's run into the ground over and over and over about anti-USA this and anti-USA that, it just gets overdone. But, I don't have to read these posts either, I can just stay out of it.
In all fairness, it's the same in every country, really. The US has problems, Canada has problems, the UK has problems, Korea has problems, etc... etc... Everywhere there is a government, there are problems, because "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely." |
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| Lyssandra |
Understandable, and while I respect your point of view, Kim, I also want to hear jade's from time to time (as I'm sure you do as well). In that case, I'm sure we can find better ways to insult the USA, lol!
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| exceed zero |
I try to listen and I really do. It's just that the US government is...well...more "vocal" about criticizing others (instead of themselves) and I am certainly sick of it. 
Bleh... Bed Bath and Beyond! XD F*** yeah...?? LOL, that song is hilarious! I appriecate a good satire every once in a while. OH BTW, http://www.escapistmagazine.com/a...582-Zero-Punctuation-MOH-Airborne Watch. 
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